Faith that cuts deep: An interview with Bishop Silvio Báez

Bishop Silvio José Báez, O.C.D., the Auxiliary Bishop of Managua, Nicaragua, has made himself one of the voices who have been most critical of President Daniel Ortega’s Sandinista regime. During a recent stay in Mallorca, he issued a call to build a Church at the service of human fulfillment, a Church that is more prophetic and less diplomatic. We present a translation of his interview with Mater Purissima review, a publication of the Pureza de María Sisters.


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Bishop Silvio José Báez, O.C.D. | Photo: Sr. Xiskya Valladares, R.P.

 

MP: What should distinguish a Christian today? Going to Mass? Their social or political commitment? Evangelizing in social media?

+SJB: In the first place, a Christian must distinguish himself by a very clear stance in favor of human dignity. Let’s not forget: God became man and died to save us. That’s why for Christians this commitment in favor of humanity is decisive, their ability to create relationships based on a sense of community, working to build more peaceful societies, more just, more human… taking care of the planet, because the faith has an ecological dimension. In a nutshell: the Christian fights so that human beings may live with greater dignity, and it is in this relationship with others that we express our faith in a concrete way. We also must work in social media so that this option for the human being may be rediscovered, which is summarized in this simple message of Jesus: “Whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me” (Matt. 25:40).

 

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“The Christian fights so that human beings may live with greater dignity

 

MP: There are those who criticize the Pope and think he’s a Communist, considering the social dimension of the messages that he issues.

+SJB: They’re unfounded criticisms, too ideological. Humanity has been God’s path. The human being isn’t at God’s level, but rather is the way to reach Him. What then does faith bring us? Is it another form of philanthropy? No, it’s more than that: it’s the light that helps you discover God’s image in others. With this bond of union, faith gives you great inner strength and unwavering hope. It also provides comfort when we face failure, weariness, or lack of gratitude. Without faith, this commitment to others is either diminished or ideologized. The faith in a God who loves humanity is celebrated in the Eucharist and nourished in prayer. In this profound experience of God’s love, in this encounter, faith opens up your ideological narrowness.

What then does faith bring us?
it’s a light that helps you discover in others the image of God.

MP: Then does religion have to focus on the person and stay in the private sphere?

+SJB: A faith that makes no incision into the social and political spheres is incomplete. Believers must always question themselves, from their faith in Jesus Christ, what’s their perception of reality? What they can contribute to improving it is not a matter of politicizing the faith, nor of making it an ideology. Sometimes faith has been reduced to extremely individualistic religious experiences, centered only around parish and family life, which indeed fosters encounters among others, however, they are restricted to small groups. Those encounters also must be built further, because that’s not all there is. Faith also is manifested in the struggle for a better world, in building relationships that are more just, that’s why there’s also a social, political, and ecological dimension. The risk in taking this step is to make such a departure that ends up emptying the faith, that is why it is so important to continuously feed the inner experience of a personal encounter with Jesus Christ, as well as life in the community of believers. Therefore, an education in the faith is also necessary, which takes into account all these dimensions. When I was speaking to the priests in Nicaragua, I told them that either they would be mystical prophets, or they would be nothing. A life of faith that becomes prophetic has a share of consolation and another of denunciation. A faith that is reason alone is cold: you have to integrate feelings, which also include negative or frustrating experiences.

MP:  Does that mean that we have to form Catholic parties?

+SJB: It’s not about forming confessional groups. We already have overcome this phase. It’s about living within a society what faith inspires within me, in communion with others: with other Christians, yes, but also with people who are non-believers, in search of common objectives. We all can share a desire for a more just and peaceful society, a better society. Therefore, I dream of a Church that is not the sole proprietor, but the servant of the truth, of a truth that we seek in all areas of life:

  • a Church much more prophetic than diplomatic, one that doesn’t make peoples’ lives more difficult, but seeks to heal their lives, down to the root of their problems;
  • a Church conscious of being at the service of something much greater than she, at the service of the Kingdom of God; and,
  • a Church that doesn’t exist just to satisfy the people’s religious sentiment, but rather a Church at the service of a meaningful, fulfilling human life, with just and peaceful relationships, a Church that cares for nature.

 

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Faith that cuts deep: Auxiliary Bishop Silvio José Báez (center), between Cardinal Leopoldo Brenes (holding the monstrance, right), and the Apostolic Nuncio Waldemar Stanisław Sommertag (left), process with the Blessed Sacrament through the streets of Masaya 21 June 2018 in an attempt to prevent a massacre by Ortega’s police and paramilitary forces. At the end of the procession, Cardinal Brenes and Bishop Báez addressed the faithful from the front of the parish of Saint Sebastian. 
Photo: Carlos Herrera (Used by permission)
Here is an English translation of Bishop Báez’s speech: From here, from this heroic church of Saint Sebastian, I want to recall one of the commandments of God’s law: You shall not kill! From here, with all my heart, suffering for my city, as a believer who believes in life and in peace and never has promoted violence—to the contrary—I want to issue a call to those who have come to kill in this city, I want to issue a call to those who are even snipers, to those in the Las Flores roundabout who still want to kill—I want to issue a call to Daniel Ortega and Rosario Murillo: Not one more death in Masaya! Not one more death!

 

 

 

MP: You wrote your doctoral thesis on silence in the Bible.  Is it possible to achieve silence before so many stimuli in a world saturated with information?

+SJB: Silence is not automatically positive or negative: it depends on context and intentionality. Why is a person silent? Some may be silent so as not to hurt unnecessarily. Others do it out of fear… or out of hatred. Silence may reflect very different intentions. It can’t be canonized. On occasion, we have made silence synonymous with a spiritual person, that we are in communion with God, but we must know how to discern because not everyone is good. It happens as with speaking, which can serve to unite or to divide. It’s positive when it serves to build bridges, when it creates communion, when it fosters solidarity…

MP: When can we interpret that silence is good for us?

+SJB: I can be silent to listen, to think, to step back. Does that silence help me to relate better? Does communion with others increase? Does my relationship with God improve? That silence, then, is humanizing. A precious Psalm (Ps 141:3) says: ‘Lord, set up a guard for my mouth; keep watch at the door of my lips.’ It doesn’t say: don’t speak, or ‘close my mouth’. The Psalmist gives a different message: not everything must be said. Therefore, wisdom lies in knowing how to speak and how to keep quiet. I would say that the Bible leans more toward speaking the word than it does toward silence: only when silence is relational is it positive: when it is isolated, when it sets barriers, silence dehumanizes.

 

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An example of a tweet that fosters solidarity

 

MP: You already have more than 143,000 followers on Twitter. By your own experience, is there room for listening and candid dialogue on social media, or has it reached the level of a global tavern? How do you manage your presence in social media?

+SJB: First of all, this virtual presence is as real as physical existence. One is as present in the digital world as one is in the physical world. It isn’t an isolated world: there are also people there, there are feelings, there are sorrows …  In social media, I introduce myself just as I do in person. My presence in social media reflects my convictions, just as I am in life. In social media, in addition, communication is given equal to equal, never from top to bottom. I speak as a friend. There are so many interactions, that materially I don’t have time to read everything. When I see that there is a genuine interest in engaging in a dialogue, that’s where I respond.

 

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I speak as a friend: Bishop Báez shares a joyful moment with pilgrims from the Dominican Republic at World Youth Day 2019 in Panama | Bishop Báez / Facebook (Used by permission)

 


Author: Pere Marí @peremari

Translated with kind permission of Sr. Xiskya Valladares, R.P.  @xiskya on behalf of Mater Purissima review. Read the original article in Spanish here.

Read our profile of Bishop Báez here and search our blog posts concerning the bishop here.

 

Pere Mari. “Silvio José Báez: Una fe individualista, sin incidencia en lo social y lo político, es una fe incompleta.” Mater Purissima, No. 164, June 2019, pp. 20-21. 
This English translation is the blogger’s own work product and may not be reproduced without permission.

Acknowledgements: CRA and M (editing); LRN, NL, and PALH (video)

 

7 thoughts on “Faith that cuts deep: An interview with Bishop Silvio Báez

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  1. It’s a great interview. We the nicaraguan people, are so proud to have him as our religious leader. He is the best and sweet human being we ever had. Enjoy him while he comes back to his people when Nicaragua recover it’s freedom. Thank you ❤️

    1. Thanks for the kind comment, Nelly. It has been a pleasure to collaborate with Bishop Báez in social media despite the sorrow, pain, and hardships of the struggle in Nicaragua. Know that we stand beside all of you and will not rest until justice and peace prevail.

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